But they certainly aren’t getting rid of the in-person types; in my ward, there are too many members who don’t have the resources to use an online payment method (IE home internet), and my children won’t have the opportunity for quite a while. For each of the above, you’ll need to put in several key items that are the same for each: – Address: 50 East North Temple Street Room 1521 Salt Lake City, UT 84150. We're glad you found us too. It could happen there too. You cannot use credit cards with My Payment. It is paid on the honor system. We're always happy to be mentioned! We already have it too easy. For clarity, the end of year statement you receive, does it just state that you mad a certain number of tithing donations, or does it state the dollar amount? An option for auto pay help me be 100% accurate in paying my tithing. Please follow the instructions below to set up your bill pay with your bank. Your account number is your Church Membership Number. Pastors cannot say Christians are no longer under the law in one breath, then continue to insist that their church-members pay tithes in another breath. Login to your bank account online with your financial institution then select the bill pay tab and then add a new payee/bill. Also, members in Europe already generally pay their tithing through electronic means. But the law wasn’t always interpr… For myself, one major concern I have is identity theft. Bill pay is a bit of a pain for Bishopric members counting because they fill out the donation slip on your behalf and the check numbers are usually many digits too…this should be a lot nicer for for the Bishoprics. Here’s something else . We'll send you an email with our latest posts & other useful information. . This source heard it announced in church, then logged into his LDS.org account to check it out. Unfortunately it’s not a great system as some of the updates and comments on that post point out. It also includes the assurance that an official contributions document will be sent at the end of the year for tax purposes. This method of payment apparently wasn’t intended to be used by the general membership of the Church. Thanks for sharing. What we can surmise from the info available: Who else is stoked about this? Thus a life-hacker is someone who’s enthusiastic and skilled at life. Older churchgoers are more reluctant to pay for a donation with a card. many will lose their personnal info even more so to identity theft. So we’re really excited to tell you that the Church has a beta version coming soon! If your bank mails them a check, that’s when they start to get overwhelmed, because they have to process those manually. Sam, as a current ward clerk of a YSA ward, I relate to you in hearing this request all the time, especially since our demographic is solely people who grew up with technology and are comfortable doing, well, everything with it. My income varies from pay to pay so my tithing is set up so I enter the amount each pay day. Creator of Mormon Life Hacker. 2. Subscription price for basic plan is $2.99 per 12 months. Do we really want to teach our youth to do busy work instead of work that means something? Can’t wait for it. Please leave the notes/memo section blank. If they offer this in my area I will switch to online payments. Probably mention it on next weeks ThisWeekinMormons.com show if it works Glad we found you man, keep the good posts coming. This is progress and keeping up with the times. We stared to realize that, for now, this 1/3 charitable giving number seemed quite high (and random). Input the address and telephone. Can't wait to try this out. Thank you! This still works. If you're anything like me then you almost never use checks. 1. Input your account number. Chrome, Edge, Firefox, or IE11. If Zion’s is doing the processing, it’ll probably take more integration with international banks to get it elsewhere. Pay in 4 is a new buy now, pay later installment solution at no additional cost. Email me followup comments. I AM STOKED!! He went to our High Councillor who claimed that it was a scam and that I should stop paying it immediately. Many companies don’t even accept checks anymore. Do bishops even need to access contribution information for temple recommends or tithing settlement? This is just what I've been looking for ! Therefore, if Jim already paid tithing on the $1526 in 1950, he could justly choose to not pay tithing on the first $15,694 he receives, as they are of equivalent value. If you prefer privacy, don’t bring anything. Set up separate payees for each category. Below are the exact payee names that must be used for the donation categories we accept: These are the only categories that can be accepted electronically through bill pay. Switch to billpay! In other words, what do you bring to tithing settlement if you prefer privacy in your tithing dollar amount? Your financial institution may auto populate the address and telephone number, if not please input this information as it appears below: If the address will not fit on the first address line, drop Room 1521 to the second address line. Thus, tithing in the here and now is obedience to help support the Church in its ecclesiastical efforts, from which we benefit directly as members. Yes. I tried to inform my church president and others and you wouldn’t believe the trouble I got for it. Until that happens, the donations received at church headquarters are processed MANUALLY by church employees; similar to what a ward clerk goes through each Sunday, only on a much larger scale. For those with a fixed income and paycheck schedule, you can setup your billpay to make these payments automatically for you, without any effort. I would disagree. I’ll probably get a lot of flack for saying what I’m going to say, but here it is. It should make it easy to pay tithing, fast offerings, and other donations to the Church, electronically! . Also, “Other” accounts for camp and fundraisers are always kept locally and are not counted as charitable contributions, like other donations. When you initiate each donation please check and double check the amount is correct before you send the donation. May the Almighty Lord guide my … the only funds we keep locally besides our budget and the “Other” category are the donations to ward missionaries. It saves at least one bank account, making any donations from that account quick and easy in the future. The possibilities are endless and celestial. I've been doing this for more than two years and love it. Somebody’s tithing is not worth less in God’s eyes because they made a electronic transfer rather than handing it to their Boshop. Maybe we should all walk to church as well? The next account of tithing that we see was when Jacob, Abraham's grandson, made a covenant with God and said, "IF you protect me, bless me, and bring me back to my father's house in peace... you will be my God and I will pay you tithes of all. People use to pay their tithing in chickens but how often do you see someone walk into church with a chicken tucked under their arm? Tevya keeps a blog called Sacred Symbolic, about things he learns in his daily scripture study and other learning. They asked to not have this information in the public domain. Note: You cannot contribute to local fast offerings or missionary funds through this method. I'm excited! I will take a stab in the dark and guess that you are not comfortable with technology or paying bills online. No need for you to generate a PRN from other sources (MySSS, helpline, email or text) just to make a payment. Been using it for years and loving it. I can’t very well hand a personal check drawn on a US bank account to my bishop in Portugal. With a larger bank, such as the required US bank account, these concerns aren’t often found right away. Give me a break and take your Prozac!! Also wanted to let you know I just found this site, I am a regular lifehacker reader and was really excited to find the Mormon version!!!!! That’s all. At the end of each month the church emails me with a report of all the contributions they've received for myself & my wife. For this reason, they have asked not to use this system, unless there is no other way to make your donations, at least until such time they announce they can process these automatically. The fee is not refundable. We’re hoping what we’ve heard is true. Geoffrey …I see your point, but as a member here in Brazil, often I get paid in US Dollar (VA pension from military) as well as in Brazilian funds from my work…it helps me pay my salary in Real as well as Dollar…so really it DOES benefit some people in different ways..I think the Church held out as long as they could for the reason that you specifically mentioned and there will still be tithing envelopes for those who insist on the traditional way of doing things..but I liken it to a MP3 instead of a CD …which has a better quality? Well, I just recently learned that either the Church never intended this for the general membership, or they changed their policy. Tevya keeps a blog called Sacred Symbolic, about things he learns in his daily scripture study and other learning. Posted by Tevya | Jul 22, 2010 | finances, tithes & offerings | 49 |. To pay your tithing online, simply enter the amount on the correct line next to the donation you'd like to make. One. If your payees are set up incorrectly we will receive a physical check which we would like to avoid. Love that idea of sending it to myself! We’ve also been promised that if we pay tithing, the blessings that come will be more than we can receive. Not sure why it thinks its supposed to be 13 (maybe put the hyphens in? They didn’t believe me and the church High councillor said that it was a scam and that I should stop paying immediately. I hope that now they will believe. Here's how to pay tithing online for members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (aka Mormons or Latter-day Saints [LDS]). We need to do a get together! Expansive boundaries make this very difficult if not impossible in other areas of the country and the world. I’d assume that this will be monthly and yearly ones similar to those sent out by email, for people who pay using the BillPay method now. which will be auto renewing within 24 … I’ve been wanting to update the previous post for years, but just haven’t had any really helpful news on this front. Now that I’m beginning to understand the blessings that come with tithing I’m starting to believe God for even more than just 10% extra to cover the tithe. All donations are done through billpay. Our building has 4 wards that meet in it and the halls get congested. You will receive monthly statements by email to ensure that your donations were received and allocated correctly. We get asked all the time if their is an option. , Wow !! We'll send you an email with our latest posts & other useful information. Church leaders use the money for providing for the neighborhood Mormon Church’s financial needs, and worldwide needs as well. I am still stunned at the total lack of effort made by our priesthood to even seriously look into this. My bishop doesn’t know what my income is, and there is a certain degree of self-certification in those interviews, no? The rumor was that they thought they were ready for going public but wanted to ramp-up gradually and prove-out the whole system. Before paying for anything I have to look back through all my transactions to make sure tithing has gone through. Certainly it is a little more personal to have that brief interaction with your bishop, but we pay tithing to the Lord, not the bishop. All categories except 'Other' can be paid electronically, and if your donating tax efficiently, Gift Aid payments can be made this way too. Lived on about 20%. Of course, EFT (electronic funds transfer) would be even more convenient. As a Primary Pres. I hate writing checks. We have set "his" tithing payment to pay automatically every month (day #5 of the month to make sure his military pay has deposited). Some have to be done through a "Billpay" check. I recently used the service to pay our annual tithe to the church. After October 7, you will be unable to access the service to pay bills if your browser does not support TLS 1.2. So I think the Lord is just as pleased with an electronic payment. His business Fiddler Online, creates WordPress websites for small businesses. Do they miss out on blessings because of the way they pay? Can’t wait to find out all the answers on the roll out. BTW, failed to add to the above..we are located in the States…. I pay 10% tithes plus 5% offering (temple tax I think it is called). Yes, I also always send my tithing to myself! member we are trying to get to the Primary room before the kids do. I followed the instructions and within 24 hours got a confirmation email with all the instructions, just like in the example above. 4 Easy Steps To Paying Your Tithing Online: 1. The person (church employee) who told me that also mentioned that he had chosen to stop using on-line donation because of the work-load it created. Whoa. awesome. You’ve mentioned this a few times before. Having Deacons collect fast offerings is a church tradition, so I write my two checks each month. Awesome! Not only are we becoming a cashless society but current events have dramatically changed how we give. Making payments online is just the church keeping up with the times. But, perhaps with Ward Mission and Other funds, the Church simply won’t allow their donation through the online portal, as you indicated; that’s how it is right now with the billpay system – you can only donate to the global donation categories. Wells Fargo accepted mine just fine when I did it this way. I value that for my children, too. If we can’t live off 90% of our … No questions asked. – LDS-PEF The tax statement has been sent (at the last minute.) ... often relying on marketplace tools like PayPal and online bill pay (which still involves banks sending checks each month). So maybe the church used to process manually, but now the bulk of it (all the larger banks/cu's) is electronic. You are still paying tithing, which a lot of people aren’t doing, believe it or not. Paying tithing online sounds like a great idea. But since then I have been told at "Tech Friday"s that on-line payment processes has reverted to completely manual processing. My son as Branch Clerk thinks it can make it job a little easier – and we could go home sooner, , I receive bill pay donations at my home and we fill out the tithing slip. If doing things the hard way is how we’re supposed to show our sacrifice to God who has blessed us with many conveniences, perhaps we should be as the Amish? This will make things SO much easier. Any word when I can start using this????? Apparently too many Billpay checks were coming in as paper checks, rather than electronically, and it's overwhelmed the donations department, since they have to process all paper checks by hand, unlike when it's delivered electronically. The trick is that you have to set up each fund as a different payee in your billpay. IT’S BETWEEN YOU AND GOD. It doesn't matter if the donation arrived via electronic means, or by a real check, the process still needs manual intervention to credit the right person. People calm down… I see the benefits, I also see negatives (personal information security for example) and I’m not blind to the idea that the church would have every security option in place nor am I blind to the risk in hand delivering cash or check to the bishop. Cheers, Required fields are marked *. I stated that I had heard that things weren't going well and that I therefore had chosen to revert to local donations on paper. I can't tell you if it is done electronically or manually but all I care about is for ME, it is done electronically. Creator of Mormon Life Hacker. a tithe to the Church is a tithe to the Church. Bishops change, and I move to different wards (all too frequently!). . Paying your tithing and other offerings by electronic transfer is the current method in Europe. Reader Insights: Are there problem points in Temple Pre... VIDEO: President Eyring addresses one key to becoming truly GRATEFUL, Use Lists in LDS Tools to Plan Fast Offering & Other Routes in Your Ward, 1st Ever Mormon Life Hacker Live Hangout – Dec ’12, It's Official, The Church Approves Online Payment of Tithing and Other Donations - LDS SMILE. Email me followup comments. You'll know when you receive a statement for the month showing donations made. UPDATE (PLEASE READ): We’ve been contacted by the Church Donations Department and asked to remove the links to the Electronic Donation Information form, among other things. I don\’t believe it downloads to your local ward. When I first heard of on-line donations there was information posted that said it was only for people with special needs. This will make it so easy. I have to write two checks each month instead of one. You’ll bless the day! A friend told me that the Church is piloting a new LDS.org-based online payment site in their stake. And I haven’t heard of BillPay for church donations, so all of this is new to me. or to pay by cash or check? The sacred part is giving that money to the Church, regardless of the method. I started selling things online. The payment of tithes is … THE BISHOP DOES NOT NEED TO KNOW THE EXACT AMOUNT PERIOD. The reply I received said 'thank you' for reverting to paper payment. Please let us know when it goes live as I just checked and I don’t have it – at least not that I could find. You can pay online.. There’s a fee if you pay by corporate credit card or corporate debit card. However, even those who are in their 50s, 60s and beyond are warming to the practice. great. What happened to my church? While I agree with you in principle, the Church’s instruction and long-held tradition is that you give it to a member of your Bishopric. I dare say it has even negatively affected my ability to attend the temple. It seems to me the church does not have an issue with accepting tithing payments this way from anyone anywhere that chooses to. I'll be updating this post shortly, and possibly posting another with more information. That's great they're working on that. Your membership number is included below. You pay your tithing online on the LDS church’s secure website. Later I heard that many people were doing it and that it was OK. But what am I going to do with the two hours after church when I would normally be typing in amounts to the MLS? The Lord often blesses us with easier ways of doing things because we can accomplish a lot more with fewer impediments. If it worked, you’re good to go! 4. I just put a short note in the email saying “here’s our electronic donation information form, so we can pay via billpay.” After a few days you’ll get an email back that says essentially “you’re now ready to make Church donations electronically through Billpay,” and will probably include a very long version of what follows. I don’t think I’d use it. They take a long time to cash a check. There’s just no way to know for sure, until it happens. You are welcome to pay any way you would like, but you don’t need to poo poo everyone that is excited to pay electronically. thank you! Just thought I would let you know. Reader Insights: Are there problem points in Temple Pre... 1st Ever Mormon Life Hacker Live Hangout – Dec ’12, You Need A Budget for Your Family Finances, Al Fox Carraway on food storage: why it is easy to stock up now using foodstorage.lds.org, http://www.parowansoftware.com/by_hand.html, How To Pay Tithing Online Wells Fargo | Information, Account Number: your Membership Number in this format: 123-4567-8910. 20-25% has gone to taxes. The church staff are working on the other categories. I think that this is a great idea!!! I think that you have sentimental feelings about the act of handing your tithing to a bishopric member, but in reality, the Lord does not command us to pay tithing a certain way, just that we pay it. Hi Micah. Learn how your comment data is processed. Glad you're excited about our site. Just like the paper slip, you can donate to more than one category at the same time. It’s a personal sacrifice for the Lord’s purposes. The days of forgetting our checkbook & then paying tithing "late" because of it are over……. It was a matter of time, before the church implement this. For a time I would pay the 10% and then wait a week or so to pay the 5%, so as to stretch the dollars. IDIAT, I’ve been paying through billpay for 2-3 years now, and I’ve always had the option to pay to any of the Church’s funds, with the exception of ward missionaries (because the money for that goes to the ward and stays in the ward’s bank account, rather than being sent up to Church HQ, like the other funds). Put the payee or “biller” name for each new entry, as follows (according to what you want to pay for): – LDS-Tithing We use BOAmerica; my husband is retired & thus "his" income is fixed. I have decided to pay my tithe first after every payment before committing my money to pay other bills. Everything sold in an instant. We have set up Bill Pay to our Bishop or ourselves (by preference of our Bishops) for over 5 years now and it has worked great; but would like to use this other way if the Church isn't overly burdened by it. Thanks to @Paul and others who have mentioned this. Personal Growth Hacking: Track Your Christlike Attributes. As of right now the monthly statements aren't coming out, but the computer system is being worked on. This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. That means that Billy’s Uncle on the East Coast can chip in part of the monthly cost by going to LDS.org and making the donation quickly and efficiently without sending a check or cash. So I don’t understand the hesitation about it being a manual process- if I give it to my local unit, the bishopric member and clerk have to enter it manually, on a Sunday afternoon, with the risk of loss or error in the processing. You have to setup a new payee for each different type of donation you’d like to do. Why must we try to convince the other person they are wrong? Along with you, I can’t wait to see how it will work as it rolls out. This is the reply email that I received, instructions included, that outlines the steps needed to setup Billpay. In January 2013, headquarters sent us the ward’s tax statements including his. The bishop had and still has no finance info in the ward MLS. Several do online pill pay and either send the check to their own home or send it to the Bishop’s home. One will be emailed to you from HQ, while the other your ward clerk will print. Perfect name, really. Say “hi” to your family. When giving is easy, people give more. I can’t wait for this to launch!!! All I had to do was put in my membership number and save the payee. This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. You’ll be able to download some kind of statements (see left-sidebar). Pay now with My Payment. The Deacon is to be an assistant to the Bishop…plain and simple. Every tithing software is a little different, but they all provide the same major benefits: 1. I don’t see the operations issues you’re thinking about, though, because (at least in our ward!) I think the depth of the giving will be lost. I've done electronic bill pay tithing from my bank (B of A) for 3 years now. Yes, you can "mix & match"….pay thru the ward & pay electronically. You will have 2 end of year receipts. If yes, do you know when we should plan on receiving this? A record of your past donations will also be available, even if they were not paid through this new site (see the sidebar where donations are listed, even though my source paid their first donation online, after taking this screenshot). That’s why I would never suggest pausing it to pay down debt. It recognized it and offered the payee information for me. I am Canadian and I also opened up a US bank account so that I could pay tithing to the church through Bill Pay. Hopefully that will be helpful for any Mormon Life Hacker's in the UK, and perhaps other places in Europe can figure out similar solutions. It was amazing to me that the church priesthood refused to even seriously look into it! Just tell it to continue with the 11 digit number and you should be good to go. Easy breezy, automated, and no need to remember to bring the checkbook to church. Just choose Pay in 4 at checkout at millions of online stores where PayPal is available to split your payment into 4 interest-free payments, one every two weeks. If they did, wouldn't they ask someone why they wanted to pay this way instead of traditional ways? Learn how your comment data is processed. We use a very small local credit union and luckily these unusual kinds of charges have been caught quickly and no damage has been done to our credit. I received an e-mail saying that I didn't have to have a special need. It is deposited like any other donation that is received. When I go in for my tithing settlement, what will show up on the statement? Your bishop and ward clerk will be able to see your donations and you should attend tithing settlement as normal. We'd love to hear any ideas for hacks that you have! Please add donations@ldschurch.org to your email address book to ensure that your email statements and other correspondence are sent to your inbox rather than your spam folder. I just started doing it July 2012. Or two? For example: if you want to donate to tithing and fast offering, you must setup a payee named LDS-TITHING and a separate payee named LDS-FAST OFFERING. Thank you! Your email address will not be published. I've been searching for this information and here you all are talking about having done this for years?? At the end of January a tax valid receipt will also be emailed for your prior years contributions. More than 30% has gone towards paying down student loan debt. This takes the personal nature of the tithe away, and makes it just like any other bill like the mortgage or a car payment. For Latter-day Saints, tithing is a natural and integrated aspect of their religious belief and practice. I wrote to Donations@ldschurch.org to inquire if it was in fact, intended to be limited to only people with special needs. With auto bill pay I know it’s being paid and I don’t forget. The Patriarchs. I really like using billpay for paying bills, and I’ll be glad when the church starts to use the technology the Lord has given us. It looks like the transaction happens though Zion’s Bank on their (the Church’s) end of things. Naperville Illinois Stake. I have bill pay send a check to my piano teacher too. However, without more details on the whole thing, I’ll continue encouraging people to follow the instructions I was given (see the note at the top of the post). Groceries lasted longer. I’d rather write one check, and as soon as my area gets the new online procedure, I won’t have to write any checks. Its the Church, not Wells Fargo that must recognize the number. The collection of fast offerings by the Deacons is really just a western states thing anyway. YAYY. The ward clerks, etc get all freaked out over it…but so what….why would they want to sit & count tithing every Sunday??? And speaking of billpay, all funds donated through billpay are reported in MLS, and the Bishop can see them at Tithing Settlement time, so that’s not a worry. Since I don’t have a fixed income or pay schedule, the following method makes things really easy for me to pay tithing and other offerings, and billpay deducts the amount from my account, the day it is sent. Just need to know your routing number and then your account number to a checking or savings account. 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